Anonymous said: Not being rude or anything, but It was Karen's idea to wear skirts. She wanted to wear skirts. Moffat didn't have any input. It's not right to slut-shame her or put her down for wanting to wear a skirt. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to state the facts. I am a feminist but I see no problem in a girl wearing a skirt if she wants to. She likes her legs, there's nothing wrong with that.
I assume you’re talking about this post? If you read my tags on the post I linked to in that post, about “Amy’s little jump”, you’d realize that I know it was Karen’s idea to wear mini-skirts.
Not being rude or anything, but I have to laugh when you say “Moffat didn’t have any input.” Of course he had input. He’s the ultimate deciding vote in anything that happens on the show (unless perhaps someone above him at the BBC has an objection). His input was that he went along with Karen’s idea instead of vetoing it.
Moffat himself says that Karen’s appearance was a major reason for hiring her. Her acting skills would not have been enough if she had actually been, as he first thought, “wee and dumpy”. And in dialog and camera angles, he calls repeated attention to Amy’s legs and body, and faults her for distracting Rory instead of faulting Rory being distracted.
I’m pretty sure Karen knows which side her bread is buttered on, and that she gets rewarded for catering to the male gaze. More power to her for using that to her own advantage. But as we see with “Amy’s little jump”, sometimes Amy Pond the character can’t be fully part of the action because of her costume.
It’s not slut-shaming to point out that women are judged for their appearance far more than men are, and that women are expected to wear things that are uncomfortable and limit their freedom of movement in order to be attractive, while men are not.
This just in: Moffat is sexist for supporting a woman’s choices for her own costume. Seems he just can’t win.
And about the tags on the “Amy’s little jump” post, you put: don’t start telling me that miniskirts were karen gillan’s idea, it’s still our patriarchal culture which thinks that, hobbled women are sexy women
So yeah, you might know it was Karen’s idea, but you’re still dismissing that fact and blaming her choice on the patriarchy, rather than it being something she wanted and was comfortable with.
Also on the topic of that post, about how the outfit limits her movement and everything - please remember the actual context of the episode. Amy was dressed like that as she had the outfit on hand when the Doctor broke into her house - it was a kissogram outfit, not meant for running or jumping. She wasn’t prepared for the end of the world or having to run about, and as such her outfits throughout the rest of the series, when you know, she’s actually prepared, limit her movement much less, and she does very much end up being “fully part of the action”. Funny that.
And Moffat’s role as showrunner and scriptwriter does not include directing, and therefore he would’ve had nothing to do with the camera angles.
It’s kind of a nuanced thing, trying to analyze women’s clothing from a feminist point of view. On the one hand, a woman has the right to wear whatever she wants. On the other hand, no one makes that choice in a vacuum. Our culture has certain expectations about women’s appearances, and any choice a woman makes has certain costs and certain benefits. Women are judged by their appearance in a way that men are not, and the clothing that is considered attractive on women is often impractical, uncomfortable, and restricts mobility. If I lament that fact, I am not shaming a particular woman or claiming that she doesn’t make her own choices. She chooses, but patriarchal society provides the frame in which the choice is made.
That said, I don’t think it’s clear at all that Karen actually was the one with the deciding vote about Amy’s clothing. I doubt that Moffat supports her right, in the abstract, to make her own choices about her costume. The preference she expressed fit with his agenda, so he went along with it. And yes, I maintain that his agenda is sexist. (If she had expressed a desire to wear baggy sweatpants, or a prairie dress, I don’t imagine he would have supported her choices.)
Moffat was also the one who made the choice that Amy would work as a kiss-o-gram, an occupation that most definitely sexualizes her and prioritizes her appearance. It’s one of those choices Moffat didn’t have to make, but he made it, because he likes getting cheap laughs out of sexual stereotypes. Her profession requires her to be sexy, and being sexy involves wearing clothes that she can’t run in. The fact that she wears somewhat more functional clothes in later episodes doesn’t change this point.
And about the camera angles: people defending Moffat love to deny that he has any influence on what happens on his own show. It’s like they think that once he hires someone, he never talks to them again. Trust me, these people have meetings before they shoot, where they explicitly discuss what kind of mood they want to create and how to approach each scene. And if they don’t happen to discuss a particular aspect of the show, the people who work under him will try to suss out what he likes and to do things that they think will please him. Even if he’s not the one who does that particular job, his fingerprints are bound to be on it.
tl,dr: Women’s choices about their appearance are made within the framework of a sexist society. Moffat is ultimately responsible for what’s on the show, even if he doesn’t do every last little task himself.